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	<title>Comments on: Penny auctions: where do they fit in the auction landscape?</title>
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		<title>By: Teddy</title>
		<link>http://www.sensibledevelopment.com/2009/06/penny-auctions-where-do-they-fit-in-the-auction-landscape/#comment-94</link>
		<dc:creator>Teddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I tried the Gozila.co.uk penny auction site recently and I asked for a refund.

I tried to get a PS3. And after 2 hours of bidding and lagging it shew the winner (not me). 

I think ebay is better that penny auctions.

Teddy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I tried the Gozila.co.uk penny auction site recently and I asked for a refund.</p>
<p>I tried to get a PS3. And after 2 hours of bidding and lagging it shew the winner (not me). </p>
<p>I think ebay is better that penny auctions.</p>
<p>Teddy</p>
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		<title>By: Mad Bid</title>
		<link>http://www.sensibledevelopment.com/2009/06/penny-auctions-where-do-they-fit-in-the-auction-landscape/#comment-93</link>
		<dc:creator>Mad Bid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a lot of people have their reservations with the new concept of &quot;penny auction&quot; web sites..
i hope this blog sets them to rest for the better..
if not.. this is another blog link that may help
http://hubpages.com/hub/penny-auctions</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a lot of people have their reservations with the new concept of &#8220;penny auction&#8221; web sites..<br />
i hope this blog sets them to rest for the better..<br />
if not.. this is another blog link that may help<br />
<a href="http://hubpages.com/hub/penny-auctions" rel="nofollow">http://hubpages.com/hub/penny-auctions</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://www.sensibledevelopment.com/2009/06/penny-auctions-where-do-they-fit-in-the-auction-landscape/#comment-92</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comments on this topic, guys. Very interesting.

I think for us we have a fundamental problem with with two things. The first is the payment for bidding. The second is the subsidy of winners by the losers.

Whilst the first cleverly subsidizes the purchases of the lots through the actions of the losing bidders, it also skews the market and also brings in to question the transparency of the site. One of the exciting things about the internet is the ability to be able to create open, online marketplaces where buyers and sellers interact and eventually agree a sale price for an item. By charging for bidding this is fundamentally broken.

The more important aspect of this though, is the skill and chance involved in the process. By charging people to bid you are forcing people to invest in bidding further. The more people bid the more the sense of urgency increases to win the items. It&#039;s an ever decreasing circle. Whilst this creates a cash cow for the site owner, it does not necessarily give the bidder a bargain sale at all. 

If these sites were promote themselves as gambling or gaming sites then it would be a different proposition. The users would understand upfront that they stand to lose money. They would also understand they are not on an eCommerce site. For us the user experience is important. We cannot be seen to skew the user experience in this way as it would have an impact on the work we do for other auction clients.

We have taken the decision democratically within the company that we do not wish to get involved in these types of sites and see more benefit in the creation of real marketplaces for companies interested in creating transparent trading environments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments on this topic, guys. Very interesting.</p>
<p>I think for us we have a fundamental problem with with two things. The first is the payment for bidding. The second is the subsidy of winners by the losers.</p>
<p>Whilst the first cleverly subsidizes the purchases of the lots through the actions of the losing bidders, it also skews the market and also brings in to question the transparency of the site. One of the exciting things about the internet is the ability to be able to create open, online marketplaces where buyers and sellers interact and eventually agree a sale price for an item. By charging for bidding this is fundamentally broken.</p>
<p>The more important aspect of this though, is the skill and chance involved in the process. By charging people to bid you are forcing people to invest in bidding further. The more people bid the more the sense of urgency increases to win the items. It&#8217;s an ever decreasing circle. Whilst this creates a cash cow for the site owner, it does not necessarily give the bidder a bargain sale at all. </p>
<p>If these sites were promote themselves as gambling or gaming sites then it would be a different proposition. The users would understand upfront that they stand to lose money. They would also understand they are not on an eCommerce site. For us the user experience is important. We cannot be seen to skew the user experience in this way as it would have an impact on the work we do for other auction clients.</p>
<p>We have taken the decision democratically within the company that we do not wish to get involved in these types of sites and see more benefit in the creation of real marketplaces for companies interested in creating transparent trading environments.</p>
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		<title>By: Penny Auctions</title>
		<link>http://www.sensibledevelopment.com/2009/06/penny-auctions-where-do-they-fit-in-the-auction-landscape/#comment-90</link>
		<dc:creator>Penny Auctions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The penny auction concept is definitely growing in popularity..  many new sites come and go often.  People often recommend to bid on the newest sites because the small user base means less competition for bidders..  However, it is advisable to research any site before bidding since there are a large number of fraud outfits who shill bid their own auctions using fake user names (aka, &#039;bots&#039;).  The forum mentioned above, PennyAuctionWatch.com is a great resource to see how others think about the various sites.

I think most penny auction bidders enjoy the whole experience and have fun throughout the bidding process, but of course need to win sometimes to keep it fun.  It is not for everyone, but bargains are definitely to be had if you know what the rules are and use a good strategy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The penny auction concept is definitely growing in popularity..  many new sites come and go often.  People often recommend to bid on the newest sites because the small user base means less competition for bidders..  However, it is advisable to research any site before bidding since there are a large number of fraud outfits who shill bid their own auctions using fake user names (aka, &#8216;bots&#8217;).  The forum mentioned above, PennyAuctionWatch.com is a great resource to see how others think about the various sites.</p>
<p>I think most penny auction bidders enjoy the whole experience and have fun throughout the bidding process, but of course need to win sometimes to keep it fun.  It is not for everyone, but bargains are definitely to be had if you know what the rules are and use a good strategy.</p>
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		<title>By: auctionwatcher</title>
		<link>http://www.sensibledevelopment.com/2009/06/penny-auctions-where-do-they-fit-in-the-auction-landscape/#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>auctionwatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all of the new penny auction sites popping up this should get interesting... check out http://www.pennyauctionwatch.com and join the forums too if you want to learn more about penny auctions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all of the new penny auction sites popping up this should get interesting&#8230; check out <a href="http://www.pennyauctionwatch.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.pennyauctionwatch.com</a> and join the forums too if you want to learn more about penny auctions.</p>
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